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		<title>By: sandra hayton</title>
		<link>http://www.chickensinvancouver.com/resources/feeding-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-9623</link>
		<dc:creator>sandra hayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 02:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having had chickens for a number of years, my experience with dumor and purina layer feed is that they do not have enough calcium to meet my flock&#039;s need.  I feed oyster shell mixed with their feed as they do not consume it free choice.  The grit problem really is no problem for me as my hens are free range on very adequate pasture.  Although I do keep some grit on hand for the Michigan winter when the ground is frozen solid and snow covered.  And my hens DO eat grass.  They prefer to pick it off in small bits themselves.  And I do feed them third cutting alfalfa hay in the winter, either run through a shredder or fed  whole.  If fed whole, they waste more, but get more entertainment.  I also feed open pollinated organic whole corn and whole field peas.  They get practically all the waste from the kitchen.  It can be old, but not bad.  What do they eat? a list of what they don&#039;t eat would be much shorter, but here is some of what goes out to the chicken yard.

melon rinds
 apple peelings and trimmings 
squash
pumpkin
leftover chicken and meat scraps , try a steak bone.  they&#039;ll clean it up completely
pasta
salad
coleslaw
cheese
 cereals
bananas
grapes 
tomatoes
soup, etc, ad infinitum

Are my birds healthy?  You bet your booties they are.  They lay very well.  per dozen birds I get between 8 to 12 eggs a day. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had chickens for a number of years, my experience with dumor and purina layer feed is that they do not have enough calcium to meet my flock&#8217;s need.  I feed oyster shell mixed with their feed as they do not consume it free choice.  The grit problem really is no problem for me as my hens are free range on very adequate pasture.  Although I do keep some grit on hand for the Michigan winter when the ground is frozen solid and snow covered.  And my hens DO eat grass.  They prefer to pick it off in small bits themselves.  And I do feed them third cutting alfalfa hay in the winter, either run through a shredder or fed  whole.  If fed whole, they waste more, but get more entertainment.  I also feed open pollinated organic whole corn and whole field peas.  They get practically all the waste from the kitchen.  It can be old, but not bad.  What do they eat? a list of what they don&#8217;t eat would be much shorter, but here is some of what goes out to the chicken yard.</p>
<p>melon rinds<br />
 apple peelings and trimmings<br />
squash<br />
pumpkin<br />
leftover chicken and meat scraps , try a steak bone.  they&#8217;ll clean it up completely<br />
pasta<br />
salad<br />
coleslaw<br />
cheese<br />
 cereals<br />
bananas<br />
grapes<br />
tomatoes<br />
soup, etc, ad infinitum</p>
<p>Are my birds healthy?  You bet your booties they are.  They lay very well.  per dozen birds I get between 8 to 12 eggs a day.</p>
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		<title>By: twoinoven2003</title>
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		<dc:creator>twoinoven2003</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 03:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree! I love my chickens, they are like therapy. One particularly stressful day at home with the kids I went and sat in the coop watching the girls all vie for the &#039;favorite&#039; nest box. And watched them concentrate and eventually proudly lay an egg. I left 45 minutes later relaxed, refreshed and stress-free, ready to handle my kids skirmishes again... And what a witness of God&#039;s provision for us, just feed them and they feed us back! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree! I love my chickens, they are like therapy. One particularly stressful day at home with the kids I went and sat in the coop watching the girls all vie for the &#8216;favorite&#8217; nest box. And watched them concentrate and eventually proudly lay an egg. I left 45 minutes later relaxed, refreshed and stress-free, ready to handle my kids skirmishes again&#8230; And what a witness of God&#8217;s provision for us, just feed them and they feed us back! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://www.chickensinvancouver.com/resources/feeding-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-7012</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, my post was meant for the &#039;critics&#039; and to elaborate on the initial post. Though I have to correct- Mash and crumbles are not the same thing Mash is fine almost floury which I prefer never feed to adults and older chicks as I feel they tend to &#039;hack&#039;/cough on it- I wouldnt want to swallow large gulps of dusty &#039;flour&#039; either. Crumbles are ground up pellets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, my post was meant for the &#8216;critics&#8217; and to elaborate on the initial post. Though I have to correct- Mash and crumbles are not the same thing Mash is fine almost floury which I prefer never feed to adults and older chicks as I feel they tend to &#8216;hack&#8217;/cough on it- I wouldnt want to swallow large gulps of dusty &#8216;flour&#8217; either. Crumbles are ground up pellets.</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://www.chickensinvancouver.com/resources/feeding-chickens/comment-page-1/#comment-7011</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2011 22:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post- BUT not enough research was done to label it accurate. Chickens survived long before man began keeping them as farm animals. As still do wild turkies- if you have ever seen a wild turkey they are HUGE and they live off what they forage, which is not much in winter months. THAT being said- alot of chickens have been bread to lay eggs daily- in the wild this is not what they would be doing- not very safe for them or logical- no one would raise 365 babies a year!! They would go broody certain times and would lay a certain number cluster of fertile eggs to hatch and rear for that season. SO commercial  breeds (egg slaves) do need higher levels of calcium to pump out hundreds of eggs/year. Though the feed used is usually fortified with enough calcium to save money. There is nothing wrong with feeding a homemade diet0 there are certain rations to follow and calcium must be added or provided in oyster.  and depending on a individual hens needs) I feed commercial foods, but I get Layeena Layer and Dumor and other brands meant for layers which is formulated with enough calcium for strong eggs- you can surely suppliment with calcium (and may need to with lower quality brands)- but it is not necessary if feeding good quality layer feed. My farm vet said there was plenty enough calcium that I didnt need oyster shell. My family has never fed oyster and our eggs have always been strong.

I used to worry about chickens choking or getting bound up- but honestly if they have enough grit they &#039;chew&#039; things just fine. Chickens have been known to eat snakes, rodents- and other things that cross their path- mine love dandilions and grass and clover which I hand pick and chop a bit with scissors. You would not want to feed mowed grass- to horses either, or picked grass(w/out chopping it abit) or HAY- hay is dried and not breakdownable, so HAY does pose a threat- once they start to swallow a piece there esophagus will pull it down whether they want to keep eating it or not...ever see one running round with a piece of hay in their beak, trying to itch it out with their foot? you pull it out to see its like a foot long? but generally one long stand of hay is not going to bind them up. Young chicks are more seceptable to choking or crop impaction than adults. 

there are indeed toxic things to avoid, and things to give only in moderation- some bids are brighter than others and instincually will not eat something toxic to them unless by accident- all animals show levels of instinct- my chicens will run and duck for cover when a larger bird  flyes overhead- of course how do they know to do that if they have never been attaked? INSTINCT. but surely dont go throwing something toxic to them when they are cooped up birds- they are more likley to be so bored (lack of free ranging/foraging) that they may jump on anything and eat it- especially when there is competition for the item. 

There are days i throw oatmeal, strawberries, corn cobs and a miriad of other things to my bantams and they just look at it -the little buggers! BUT eventuallythey DO eat it- I find that standard sized birds especially red sex links are better garbage disposals (figure of speach of course). 

Too much oats/bread can cause sour crop though- so things should always be given in moderations, and yes- it often can throw their system off and cause a couple &#039;odd eggs&#039; to be found....long term deficiencies can cause health issues for sure. 

Just use common sense and do your research, certain flocks do better on certain feeds- it all depends of stress level, confinement and how well they are physically and emotionally cared for. Happy hens with spacious clean environments are healthy hens.

e</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post- BUT not enough research was done to label it accurate. Chickens survived long before man began keeping them as farm animals. As still do wild turkies- if you have ever seen a wild turkey they are HUGE and they live off what they forage, which is not much in winter months. THAT being said- alot of chickens have been bread to lay eggs daily- in the wild this is not what they would be doing- not very safe for them or logical- no one would raise 365 babies a year!! They would go broody certain times and would lay a certain number cluster of fertile eggs to hatch and rear for that season. SO commercial  breeds (egg slaves) do need higher levels of calcium to pump out hundreds of eggs/year. Though the feed used is usually fortified with enough calcium to save money. There is nothing wrong with feeding a homemade diet0 there are certain rations to follow and calcium must be added or provided in oyster.  and depending on a individual hens needs) I feed commercial foods, but I get Layeena Layer and Dumor and other brands meant for layers which is formulated with enough calcium for strong eggs- you can surely suppliment with calcium (and may need to with lower quality brands)- but it is not necessary if feeding good quality layer feed. My farm vet said there was plenty enough calcium that I didnt need oyster shell. My family has never fed oyster and our eggs have always been strong.</p>
<p>I used to worry about chickens choking or getting bound up- but honestly if they have enough grit they &#8216;chew&#8217; things just fine. Chickens have been known to eat snakes, rodents- and other things that cross their path- mine love dandilions and grass and clover which I hand pick and chop a bit with scissors. You would not want to feed mowed grass- to horses either, or picked grass(w/out chopping it abit) or HAY- hay is dried and not breakdownable, so HAY does pose a threat- once they start to swallow a piece there esophagus will pull it down whether they want to keep eating it or not&#8230;ever see one running round with a piece of hay in their beak, trying to itch it out with their foot? you pull it out to see its like a foot long? but generally one long stand of hay is not going to bind them up. Young chicks are more seceptable to choking or crop impaction than adults. </p>
<p>there are indeed toxic things to avoid, and things to give only in moderation- some bids are brighter than others and instincually will not eat something toxic to them unless by accident- all animals show levels of instinct- my chicens will run and duck for cover when a larger bird  flyes overhead- of course how do they know to do that if they have never been attaked? INSTINCT. but surely dont go throwing something toxic to them when they are cooped up birds- they are more likley to be so bored (lack of free ranging/foraging) that they may jump on anything and eat it- especially when there is competition for the item. </p>
<p>There are days i throw oatmeal, strawberries, corn cobs and a miriad of other things to my bantams and they just look at it -the little buggers! BUT eventuallythey DO eat it- I find that standard sized birds especially red sex links are better garbage disposals (figure of speach of course). </p>
<p>Too much oats/bread can cause sour crop though- so things should always be given in moderations, and yes- it often can throw their system off and cause a couple &#8216;odd eggs&#8217; to be found&#8230;.long term deficiencies can cause health issues for sure. </p>
<p>Just use common sense and do your research, certain flocks do better on certain feeds- it all depends of stress level, confinement and how well they are physically and emotionally cared for. Happy hens with spacious clean environments are healthy hens.</p>
<p>e</p>
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		<title>By: lovinmypeeps</title>
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		<dc:creator>lovinmypeeps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2011 19:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had my chickens for 2 years, my first time at it, raised them from day-old chicks. From what I thought I had purchased 10 hens turned out to be 1 rooster and 9 hens. Wasnt supposed to start out as pets, but that soon changed (husband not too happy about that). All in all, everything&#039;s going well, lost 1 last year due to illness, and a really bad molt. 
My chickens are free-range and come running when they see me; I do give them food scraps and corn scratch, which they all love.  I like to uncover big rocks to see them scurry for grubs and bugs. We&#039;ve had  a good supply of eggs and sell some from time to time.  
I never thought that chickens would bring so much joy to my life. I could watch them all day long, I have a stay-at-home computer job and I love taking my breaks and going outside to spend time with my birds. They are good stress-relievers for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had my chickens for 2 years, my first time at it, raised them from day-old chicks. From what I thought I had purchased 10 hens turned out to be 1 rooster and 9 hens. Wasnt supposed to start out as pets, but that soon changed (husband not too happy about that). All in all, everything&#8217;s going well, lost 1 last year due to illness, and a really bad molt.<br />
My chickens are free-range and come running when they see me; I do give them food scraps and corn scratch, which they all love.  I like to uncover big rocks to see them scurry for grubs and bugs. We&#8217;ve had  a good supply of eggs and sell some from time to time.<br />
I never thought that chickens would bring so much joy to my life. I could watch them all day long, I have a stay-at-home computer job and I love taking my breaks and going outside to spend time with my birds. They are good stress-relievers for me.</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2011 02:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My chickens EAT grass, and other weeds.  They especially like eating comfrey leaves.

They love tomato fruits, chopped peanuts, raisins, sunflower seeds, and other leafy garden scraps.   They can actually tell the difference between a comfrey leaf which they devour, and a romaine leaf,  which they apparently don&#039;t like.

They love corn plant leaves too.  They don&#039;t like eating the bigger corn seeds, but if the seeds are left to soften and or sprout, they gobble them up.   

I can&#039;t figure out why people think that chicken food has to be milled.  Most 3rd world countries have chickens roaming around, without formulated, pelleted or milled feeds, or vast amounts of grain.

Pioneers had chickens without these things as well, if the chickens did so poorly on a &quot;natural&quot; diet, then there would have been no point in keeping chickens because they wouldn&#039;t have laid any eggs, and been too skinny to make a meal out of.

Chickens are smarter than people give them credit for.  They like a varied diet as much as we do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My chickens EAT grass, and other weeds.  They especially like eating comfrey leaves.</p>
<p>They love tomato fruits, chopped peanuts, raisins, sunflower seeds, and other leafy garden scraps.   They can actually tell the difference between a comfrey leaf which they devour, and a romaine leaf,  which they apparently don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>They love corn plant leaves too.  They don&#8217;t like eating the bigger corn seeds, but if the seeds are left to soften and or sprout, they gobble them up.   </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t figure out why people think that chicken food has to be milled.  Most 3rd world countries have chickens roaming around, without formulated, pelleted or milled feeds, or vast amounts of grain.</p>
<p>Pioneers had chickens without these things as well, if the chickens did so poorly on a &#8220;natural&#8221; diet, then there would have been no point in keeping chickens because they wouldn&#8217;t have laid any eggs, and been too skinny to make a meal out of.</p>
<p>Chickens are smarter than people give them credit for.  They like a varied diet as much as we do.</p>
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		<title>By: feather tether</title>
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		<dc:creator>feather tether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, if a PIGEON can eat a whole grain of CORN, why can&#039;t a chicken ?
Scratch on that while your chicken is hunting mice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, if a PIGEON can eat a whole grain of CORN, why can&#8217;t a chicken ?<br />
Scratch on that while your chicken is hunting mice.</p>
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		<title>By: Iwan napu onyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iwan napu onyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 10:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Water is not a nutrient - it has no nutritional value whatsoever.
Pre made chicken feed is cheap garbage, feed your bird that, and you&#039;ll have the same garbage you buy at the store.
So chickens are omnivores - What meat suggestions do you have ? rendered chicken like pre-made feed ?
What are chicken feathers made of ? 
Have you ever owned a bird of any kind ?
Who is the source of your misinformation, do they sell pre-made feed by chance ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Water is not a nutrient &#8211; it has no nutritional value whatsoever.<br />
Pre made chicken feed is cheap garbage, feed your bird that, and you&#8217;ll have the same garbage you buy at the store.<br />
So chickens are omnivores &#8211; What meat suggestions do you have ? rendered chicken like pre-made feed ?<br />
What are chicken feathers made of ?<br />
Have you ever owned a bird of any kind ?<br />
Who is the source of your misinformation, do they sell pre-made feed by chance ?</p>
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